Chinese SoC vendor striving for world domination? Show your GPL loyalty page or get out of business!
Hello,
I don't know if other folks noticed that already, but by now almost all Chinese ARM SoC vendors (targetting mass consumer market) put up some kind of "GPL/FOSS loyalty" page - and sources. I specifically call that "GPL loyalty" because as we know, there's some road ahead (maybe long) before it's "GPL compliance". Good news that some go beyond just GPL and provide Android sources, etc.
It's yet to be seen how actually that useful technically as of now, but the talk about the outlook change. I'm sure that some of the vendors below did that because others did it. So, it looks like it gets self-sustaining, as put in subj: people come to you, and in quick chit-chat ask where's you GPL page, and if you say "nowhere", you get that strange look and people move to other booths, because Allwinner, Rockchip and everyone has it, and if you don't get that simple license thing, how you can actually hack on kernel and produce value?
The list is:
Telechips https://www.telechips.com/technical_support/kor/opensource/opensource_list.a... Rockhip http://git.linux-rockchip.org/public/ Allwinner http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/awt/news/2013-04-23.html Amlogic http://openlinux.amlogic.com/ VIA/WondermediaLinux on small ARM machines arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://apc.io/library/
Rest of rant is here: http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2013/10/growing-gplfoss-loyalty-among-chinese...
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmiscml@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I don't know if other folks noticed that already, but by now almost all Chinese ARM SoC vendors (targetting mass consumer market) put up some kind of "GPL/FOSS loyalty" page - and sources. I specifically call that "GPL loyalty" because as we know, there's some road ahead (maybe long) before it's "GPL compliance". Good news that some go beyond just GPL and provide Android sources, etc.
It's yet to be seen how actually that useful technically as of now, but the talk about the outlook change. I'm sure that some of the vendors below did that because others did it. So, it looks like it gets self-sustaining, as put in subj: people come to you, and in quick chit-chat ask where's you GPL page, and if you say "nowhere", you get that strange look and people move to other booths, because Allwinner, Rockchip and everyone has it, and if you don't get that simple license thing, how you can actually hack on kernel and produce value?
The list is:
Telechips
https://www.telechips.com/technical_support/kor/opensource/opensource_list.a... Rockhip http://git.linux-rockchip.org/public/ Allwinner http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/awt/news/2013-04-23.html Amlogic http://openlinux.amlogic.com/ VIA/WondermediaLinux on small ARM machines arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://apc.io/library/
Rest of rant is here:
http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2013/10/growing-gplfoss-loyalty-among-chinese...
-- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com
This is actually good news, but The problem still exists that the OEM's that use these SoC's often fail to produce gpl source in a timely manner.
Not just OEM's Ken, Tesco in the UK have a rockchip based tablet out now (the Hudl) and so far I've had no response from them when asking about GPL source code.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ken Phillis Jr kphillisjr@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmiscml@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I don't know if other folks noticed that already, but by now almost all Chinese ARM SoC vendors (targetting mass consumer market) put up some kind of "GPL/FOSS loyalty" page - and sources. I specifically call that "GPL loyalty" because as we know, there's some road ahead (maybe long) before it's "GPL compliance". Good news that some go beyond just GPL and provide Android sources, etc.
It's yet to be seen how actually that useful technically as of now, but the talk about the outlook change. I'm sure that some of the vendors below did that because others did it. So, it looks like it gets self-sustaining, as put in subj: people come to you, and in quick chit-chat ask where's you GPL page, and if you say "nowhere", you get that strange look and people move to other booths, because Allwinner, Rockchip and everyone has it, and if you don't get that simple license thing, how you can actually hack on kernel and produce value?
The list is:
Telechips
https://www.telechips.com/technical_support/kor/opensource/opensource_list.a... Rockhip http://git.linux-rockchip.org/public/ Allwinner http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/awt/news/2013-04-23.html Amlogic http://openlinux.amlogic.com/ VIA/WondermediaLinux on small ARM machines arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://apc.io/library/
Rest of rant is here:
http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2013/10/growing-gplfoss-loyalty-among-chinese...
-- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com
This is actually good news, but The problem still exists that the OEM's that use these SoC's often fail to produce gpl source in a timely manner.
arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netbook@files.phcomp.co.uk
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:01 PM, martin brook martin.brook100@googlemail.com wrote:
Not just OEM's Ken, Tesco in the UK have a rockchip based tablet out now (the Hudl) and so far I've had no response from them when asking about GPL source code.
martin - the next phase is to send them a gentle but insistent reminder that it is the legal responsibility of the Directors, and to request that they ensure that they pass on the message, and to point out that by not complying with the license they (Tesco's) are in Criminal Infringement of Copyright - hence the urgent need to notify the Directors.
if they do not respond to that then notify gpl-violations ok?
l.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ken Phillis Jr kphillisjr@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmiscml@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I don't know if other folks noticed that already, but by now almost all Chinese ARM SoC vendors (targetting mass consumer market) put up some kind of "GPL/FOSS loyalty" page - and sources. I specifically call that "GPL loyalty" because as we know, there's some road ahead (maybe long) before it's "GPL compliance". Good news that some go beyond just GPL and provide Android sources, etc.
It's yet to be seen how actually that useful technically as of now, but the talk about the outlook change. I'm sure that some of the vendors below did that because others did it. So, it looks like it gets self-sustaining, as put in subj: people come to you, and in quick chit-chat ask where's you GPL page, and if you say "nowhere", you get that strange look and people move to other booths, because Allwinner, Rockchip and everyone has it, and if you don't get that simple license thing, how you can actually hack on kernel and produce value?
The list is:
Telechips
https://www.telechips.com/technical_support/kor/opensource/opensource_list.a... Rockhip http://git.linux-rockchip.org/public/ Allwinner http://www.allwinnertech.com/en/awt/news/2013-04-23.html Amlogic http://openlinux.amlogic.com/ VIA/WondermediaLinux on small ARM machines arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://apc.io/library/
Rest of rant is here:
http://pfalcon-oe.blogspot.com/2013/10/growing-gplfoss-loyalty-among-chinese...
-- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com
This is actually good news, but The problem still exists that the OEM's that use these SoC's often fail to produce gpl source in a timely manner.
arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netbook@files.phcomp.co.uk
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