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Re: [Arm-netbook] pyra computer
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 15 Feb '18

15 Feb '18

-------- Original Message -------- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] pyra computer Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 09:21:27 +0000 > On Tuesday, February 6, 2018, Jean Flamelle <eaterjolly(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2/5/18, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, <ronwirring(a)safe-mail.net> wrote: > he means to ask Luke OR ANY MEMBER Yes. In case lkcl not answering and there are posts on the pyra computer in the arm-netbook Archives, someone else could tell me. > Just my two cents, but this has gotten WAY off topic... amusing as that > is for me, its not the purpose of this mailing list... and I don't think > it is very helpful. I wrote 'Can lkcl' not 'arm-netbooks'. That was enough to ignite a request from lkcl to change the phrasing of future posts from me. I could have accepted the request. I did not because I considered my phrasing short, effective and direct. I do not see, why lkcl should limit my free speech on such a minor thing. I should not have gotten the request in the first place. Lkcl, is my phrasing that annoying or offensive or confusing to you that you believe it is fine to ask me to limit my free speech? Make your argument. On this email list there is at least one person who dances with profanities. I do not know if there is a rule about that. There should be. I have not corrected that person for such phrasings. For two reasons. It happens rather seldom. And considering how it would limit the persons free speech I refrained. > reminder ron: i set the rules here, you do not. that is my role as lead, That is correct. How you set your rules and govern them shows people how fit you are on this task. > and you are free to ignore those rules if you are also happy to accept the > consequence that i am free to put you into moderation mode (again). I react to arguments not the fact that I can get excluded. > > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk > > > > -- > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > _______________________________________________ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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Can someone explain me what this really means?
by Bill Kontos 14 Feb '18

14 Feb '18

I find it hard to believe, but here is some upstream code from Qualcomm no less for the snapdragon 845 and the adreno 630 gpu too. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2018-February/165668.html

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asus eeepc 7inch, modifying it to accept a pc card
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

This post is about modifying an asus eeepc 7inch notebook into accepting a pc card. You are invite to contribute.

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Re: [Arm-netbook] pyra computer
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 13 Feb '18

13 Feb '18

-------- Original Message -------- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] pyra computer Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 23:09:31 +0000 > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:38 PM, <ronwirring(a)safe-mail.net> wrote: > they didn't like the modular concept :) they also really didn't like > the standard. > > plus, the form-factor is a bit small to fit a 5x54x90 card and > associated socket. About the pyra's computer devices, do we know how well suited they are to get connected to an eoma pc card? My thought was to have a modified part of the pyra's cabinet to enable inserting an eoma pc card. > >> ron can i ask you the favour of not referring to me in the 3rd > >> person? i'm right here!!! If I write: Lkcl, can you ... Then I want you to answer. If I write: Can lkcl ... Then all on the email list may answer. > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 11 Feb '18

11 Feb '18

-------- Original Message -------- From: Pičugins Arsenijs<crimier(a)yandex.ru> Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk To: "arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk" <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 13:38:40 +0200 For your information, I am in a censorship dispute with lkcl. I do not know what he will come up with. Maybe some or all of my posts will be stopped. > Yep, thankfully, the laptop will likely take a while anyway. What I'd personally be interested in is making it all work before the start of next EOMA crowdfunding, or maybe during it (so that the crowdfunding gets some more publicity and is taken even more seriously). When the pc card is being shipped there will be no cabinet or a 15inch notebook available in terms of cabinets with a display. I agree the more different cabinet sizes present, even if modified computer cabinets, the better. I do not follow lkcl's opposition on this. > I'm mostly interested in desktop sharing from my side, so that I can show how to draw a simple board. No other requirements from your side, webcam definitely not needed (though having a voice channel would be great). If you're interested, I can stream my desktop to something like Twitch, so that you can view it (and whoever else wants to). Yes. > Great! Once we'll have first boards (say, keyboard matrix), we might require some more tools - but nothing expensive or complicated. Do you have a photo of your soldering iron somewhere (maybe a similar photo on the internet) - just to make sure it's the right one for the job? It is a weller sp 40l 40w. In case I did not mention it before. I have a raspberry pi 0 and a beaglebone black revision c if that could be useful. > I've measured connectors on my boards, and it looks like the right one. Worst case - I can desolder a connector from my boards and mail it to you. Notes: from these 28 pins, one is GND (for some reason) and one is NC (not connected), and two pairs of pins are in parallel. So, we'll need a microcontroller with 24 free GPIOs, or a cheap I2C IO expander added. Seeing how the keyboard is a 16x8 matrix, a GPIO expander could fit very well (alternatively, we could copy whatever solution is used in some kind of popular DIY keyboards, provided we can find one that suits the row/column count). I will get the ribbonconnector. I still have the asus eeepc's mainboard. The pocketchip's keyboard is an i2c keyboard. Is the asus eeepc's keyboard also an i2c keyboard? Lkcl has said, the pc card supports i2c. Instead of modifying the asus eeepc's keyboard into an usb keyboard, what about i2c connecting the keyboard to the pc card? To my knowledge you can use the beaglebone black revision c to test i2c devices. I found a video on youtube on the matter. I have this forestalled remark. I would prefer not to cut in the asus eeepc's cabinet. If I do it wrongly, I do not have another cabinet. Instead at the bottom of the asus eeepc there is a removable plate. There is a balk which likely can be removed. I would prefer to insert the pc card by that plate. I have not been able to find something like the pcmcia/eoma 68 breakout board. Should we not find a shop to buy one? I will start a new post named 'asus eeepc 7inch, modifying it to accept a pc card' for further postings. > bottom line: please do NOT design this circuit without public > consultation and without my FINAL approval. Thank you for your warning. And participation. > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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Re: [Arm-netbook] sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 11 Feb '18

11 Feb '18

-------- Original Message -------- From: Jonathan Neuschäfer<j.neuschaefer(a)gmx.net> Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 00:40:03 +0100 > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 03:05:03PM -0500, ronwirring(a)Safe-mail.net wrote: > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: Jonathan Neuschäfer<j.neuschaefer(a)gmx.net> > > Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > > To: Eco-Conscious Computing <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard > > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:49:36 +0100 > > > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:39:57PM -0500, ronwirring(a)Safe-mail.net wrote: > > Can you tell if the mainboard is free software foundation > > compliant? > > As far as I understand, yes. Then I got the video wrong. I thought his listing of not open source devices about the riscv mainboard would negate fsf compliance. > No, MALI is (AFAIK) not available as a separate chip, so you can't put > it on a board if the SoC doesn't already have it. I did not know. Apparently you then cannot buy a bag of mali devices? > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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Fwd: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report'
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

can someone kindly check this for me? thx --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <noreply(a)fosdem.org> Date: Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:10 PM Subject: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report' To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Cc: responsible for track Hardware Enablement <hardware-devroom-manager(a)fosdem.org> Hello! The video of your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report is now available for review at: https://review.video.fosdem.org/review/b9ee7bfb82b64e02220894c0b6c92587215c… Please help us review your talk, so that we can release it sooner. This will only take a few minutes of your time; if you don't do it, we will have to, but then it may take several weeks or even months before your talk recording will be released. Things to look out for: - Please indicate the start and end of your talk. Include our actual talk, questions and applause. Optionally include the introduction. - The review screen shows three videos. The video marked "main" is what the system currently thinks is your talk. The two other ones provide context. They should help you find the start and end points and will not be part of the released video. - Please verify that the audio track is usable. If it isn't, try the "alternate" audio channel. - In case of problems that you cannot fix using the interface, mark the talk as "broken" and enter a note. We will then see what can be done. If you want some more detailed instructions on how to use the webform, please see the documentation at https://yoe.github.io/sreview In case of any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at: mailinglist: video(a)fosdem.org IRC: irc.freenode.net, channel #fosdem-video (web interface: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fosdem-video ) Thanks for your help! the FOSDEM video team

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Re: [Arm-netbook] RK3399
by Pičugins Arsenijs 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

> If the pc card gets shipped, then I got one. Great, I got one, too - so we can start the design, keeping a computer card in mind =) Rounded up all my EEE PCs and EEE PC accessories, turns out I have a box full of EEE PCs - got three 701s (one working) and one working 900 (basically, 701 with a bigger screen & slightly extended motherboard). > I want to frame this enterprise a bit more. > It must be a hobby thing. You are not obliged > to anything and you can skip any time you > want. I will not hold it against you. It's a hobby thing for me, too - it's just that I'm really interested in making it work, partly because I don't see why it wouldn't, partly because I'd like to build something new and interesting with EOMA68! There's even a chance I'll get so caught up with my other projects so as to never finish this one - while it's an unlikely outcome, it's still possible. I assume you expect the same treatment from my side - which is perfectly fine to me. > One > reason why I will not put large money > into it. That way it is not a big deal if > we do not succeed. About large amounts of money - this project being expensive is unlikely, mostly because I don't *have* any large amounts of money to put into such a thing, so it will indeed have to be low-budget. > We should do without time frames. > Shipping the pc card appears to lay > months ahead. Yep, thankfully, the laptop will likely take a while anyway. What I'd personally be interested in is making it all work before the start of next EOMA crowdfunding, or maybe during it (so that the crowdfunding gets some more publicity and is taken even more seriously). >> would you be interested in a videocall >> of some sorts? > > On forums I prefer to stay anonymous. > If things turn ugly I can walk away. > If required can we get by using an > irc or another messenger? I'm mostly interested in desktop sharing from my side, so that I can show how to draw a simple board. No other requirements from your side, webcam definitely not needed (though having a voice channel would be great). If you're interested, I can stream my desktop to something like Twitch, so that you can view it (and whoever else wants to). >> drawing the PCB, I can show you >> the basics of KiCad > > For preparation, maybe you could > state some links I should have a > look on? I have no idea, I learned KiCad when I started drawing stuff. I think that something like "KiCad: Getting To Blinky" ( https://contextualelectronics.com/courses/getting-to-blinky/ ) could help with basics, a lot - it's a well-known KiCad tutorial. > I should mention I have a solder > iron and a multimeter. Great! Once we'll have first boards (say, keyboard matrix), we might require some more tools - but nothing expensive or complicated. Do you have a photo of your soldering iron somewhere (maybe a similar photo on the internet) - just to make sure it's the right one for the job? > About my comments on the devices > I wanted to express that I prefer less > complicated solutions. I was not > telling you what solution to > select. Oh, that's OK, and totally makes sense - I'm just starting to round up components, see what's suitable for us, and what isn't =) > The asus eee pc 4g's keyboard is > model v072462ak1 revision > 1.0 gr. The ribbon has 28 > wires and the ribbon is 28mm > wide. > On ebay I have found this ribbon > connector > https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gkgAAOSwZB9Z-YIL/s-l1600.jpg. > Should I get one? I've measured connectors on my boards, and it looks like the right one. Worst case - I can desolder a connector from my boards and mail it to you. Notes: from these 28 pins, one is GND (for some reason) and one is NC (not connected), and two pairs of pins are in parallel. So, we'll need a microcontroller with 24 free GPIOs, or a cheap I2C IO expander added. Seeing how the keyboard is a 16x8 matrix, a GPIO expander could fit very well (alternatively, we could copy whatever solution is used in some kind of popular DIY keyboards, provided we can find one that suits the row/column count). I've been looking at battery power solutions. EEE PCs use 2S LiIon batteries, meaning that usual PMIC like AXP209 don't fit. Thankfully, we don't need to do as much as AXP209 does (and the computer card has an AXP209 in it anyway). For a start, we need to charge the battery, have some kind of signal when charger is present, optionally, step down the voltage to 5V. I've found AXP259, which does all three and should fit. I'll ask for a sample - I don't expect it any soon though, it's Chinese New Year, after all. I wonder if they'll even send a sample - I guess I'll purchase a couple of these in parallel, just in case. Cheers! Arsenijs

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updates from eoma68-a20
by zap 09 Feb '18

09 Feb '18

I heard you considering only sending 1gb of ram instead of 2gb of ram. I just wanted to ask, if it comes down to it, if you would be willing to still send 2gb of ram and have uboot preloaded even if it costs a little extra... for those of us who really need the 2gb of ram. 4gb would be nice too of course, but 2gb is probably good enough as long as you don't use virtualization for any reason. :) It also dawns on me, that meltdown does not affect the a20 arm processor... This makes me think that I really will want what your selling more than I have before. but yeah, this christmas which is a long way away, I know I have been saying this for a while, but with meltdown I believe I have good reason to say I will purchase one. PS, this applies mostly if the date of the eoma68-a20 libre laptop doesn't have to be sent later then expected... heh... :) I am grateful this opportunity even exists. Oh and for those on the mailing list who don't know this, A20 is apparently immune to meltdown and spectre. Because it is part of armv7. So yeah, that really motivates me! I still hope for better though in the future... Shakti anyone? ;)

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New kickstarter project: Allwinner VPU support in the official Linux kernel
by Dominique Dumont 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

[ I hope this mail is not out of topic for this list ] Bootlin (ex Free Electrons) is launching a new project on kickstarter to provide mainstream kernel support for the video part of AllWinner's chips. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bootlin/allwinner-vpu-support-in-the-o… I think this is a good idea which would benefit EOMA, so I've backed this project. All the best -- https://github.com/dod38fr/ -o- http://search.cpan.org/~ddumont/ http://ddumont.wordpress.com/ -o- irc: dod at irc.debian.org

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Fwd: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report'
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

can someone take a look grab the start point from when i start talking at blackboard? add to rt wiki? ta. got update to write ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <noreply(a)fosdem.org> Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 Subject: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report' To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Cc: responsible for track Hardware Enablement < hardware-devroom-manager(a)fosdem.org> Hello! The video of your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report is now available for review at: https://review.video.fosdem.org/review/b9ee7bfb82b64e02220894c0b6c925 87215c9f8c212b87531bef94632f411c25 Please help us review your talk, so that we can release it sooner. This will only take a few minutes of your time; if you don't do it, we will have to, but then it may take several weeks or even months before your talk recording will be released. Things to look out for: - Please indicate the start and end of your talk. Include our actual talk, questions and applause. Optionally include the introduction. - The review screen shows three videos. The video marked "main" is what the system currently thinks is your talk. The two other ones provide context. They should help you find the start and end points and will not be part of the released video. - Please verify that the audio track is usable. If it isn't, try the "alternate" audio channel. - In case of problems that you cannot fix using the interface, mark the talk as "broken" and enter a note. We will then see what can be done. If you want some more detailed instructions on how to use the webform, please see the documentation at https://yoe.github.io/sreview In case of any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at: mailinglist: video(a)fosdem.org IRC: irc.freenode.net, channel #fosdem-video (web interface: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fosdem-video ) Thanks for your help! the FOSDEM video team -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

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Talk Download: Fosdem.2018 Component.Sourcing.for.Design.and.Manufacturing.in.Shenzhen.LiveStream
by Alexander Ross 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

saved the live stream for the room, exacted lukes Saturday talk out from it: download thanks to http://onionshare.org/ over tor network: http://e5gxitu3qixdxlvk.onion/dazzling-liver tor browser can be used to download or diy cl downloader

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Video of Stall
by Alexander Ross 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

near the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzNfWNMAV_A

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Alt Webpage & Logo Combo
by Alexander Ross 06 Feb '18

06 Feb '18

http://rhombus-tech.aross.me/webpagealt/ more of alt homepage but felt like calling it generic webpage instead. its a start, lots to do. using a designed i started for something else so its has ref to a background image that dont exist, etc. css needs more work but its taking the beginnings of a shape :) I combined to logos people made and also made some little mods of my own. i feel quite happy with the outcome :) feedback good to hear, what ya would like to do , how ya feel.. should really put efforts into modding wiki page... but this fresh start would have a diff outcome than fitting around existing wiki design... but yea i think i should face up to having ago at wiki css... just dont feel like it currently... so i thought i’d see how this goes. idk if ill manage to do any more... i guess ill see if i get inspired some more and rev up to it :) I would really like some/to get more photos of the cards and housings to play about making some pics that help people to go "arr i get it". As they browse and scroll down :)

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Re: [Arm-netbook] sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

-------- Original Message -------- From: Jonathan Neuschäfer<j.neuschaefer(a)gmx.net> Apparently from: arm-netbook-bounces(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk To: Eco-Conscious Computing <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:49:36 +0100 > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:39:57PM -0500, ronwirring(a)Safe-mail.net wrote: > > Sifive has a mainboard for sale with a running riscv cpu. Many > > of the devices on the mainboard require non libre software. > > > > https://youtu.be/LAA1B5QNbO8?t=1507 > > What do you mean exactly? I do not know exactly what I mean. Go to 31.20 in the video to hear what sifive means. Can you tell if the mainboard is free software foundation compliant? If that is the case, I understood the video wrongly. I got the impression the mainboard requires non libre software to run. Software which makes the mainboard not free software foundation compliant. At 43.39 in the video they say, they are using an external non libre software graphics card. If we got all of the source code for one of the mali gpu's, could the aforementioned gpu then be used on a riscv mainboard? Or in general, can you place a mali gpu on a riscv mainboard? > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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fosdem2018 hyc fiddle and bodhrain
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

https://youtu.be/4uwcTdKgMy4

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sifive sells a riscv cpu mainboard
by ronwirring＠Safe-mail.net 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Sifive has a mainboard for sale with a running riscv cpu. Many of the devices on the mainboard require non libre software. https://youtu.be/LAA1B5QNbO8?t=1507

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Typo in Update: FOSDEM 2018, Shakti Project Tape-out Nearly Done, 2.7.5 EOMA68-A20 PCBs
by Pablo Rath 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Hi, in the latest update from Februar 1st there is an obvious typo in the markup resulting in one link rendered wrong. It starts with "The [Shakti Team]]" and I think it is one closing square bracket too much. Thank you, Luke for the interesting update and good luck with all the talks and FOSDEM. On Liberapay we made you the second highest funded individual person! :) kind regards Pablo

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I find this all strange, but good
by zap 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

2.5 watts for a quad core processor or even octacore... That sounds just plain absurd. But yeah, with less crap inside of it... it makes some sense I suppose. Shakti processors are going to be awesome. By the way Luke, I look forward to seeing your devices, and I wish you the best. You are now receiving it least for now, 94 euros a week. Pretty awesome right? And that doesn't even begin to cover the sheer awesomeness of 250k you will be getting right? I am glad someone is helping you in a way that I only dream of helping you. Your products will one day be super awesome. Mostly because of the Shakti. But even now they intrigue me. :)

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gnu guid
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

so welcome to gnu guix people i donated a board set to them they will get full os up and running when available can add to list -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

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fosdem 2018
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

hi thank you to everyone who helped lovely to meet you all thierry wim jonathon raphael thank you for fliers lunch time on stand awesome -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

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Fwd: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report'
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 04 Feb '18

04 Feb '18

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <noreply(a)fosdem.org> Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 Subject: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report' To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Cc: responsible for track Hardware Enablement < hardware-devroom-manager(a)fosdem.org> Hello! The video of your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled Crowdsupply EOMA68 Progress Report is now available for review at: https://review.video.fosdem.org/review/b9ee7bfb82b64e02220894c0b6c925 87215c9f8c212b87531bef94632f411c25 Please help us review your talk, so that we can release it sooner. This will only take a few minutes of your time; if you don't do it, we will have to, but then it may take several weeks or even months before your talk recording will be released. Things to look out for: - Please indicate the start and end of your talk. Include our actual talk, questions and applause. Optionally include the introduction. - The review screen shows three videos. The video marked "main" is what the system currently thinks is your talk. The two other ones provide context. They should help you find the start and end points and will not be part of the released video. - Please verify that the audio track is usable. If it isn't, try the "alternate" audio channel. - In case of problems that you cannot fix using the interface, mark the talk as "broken" and enter a note. We will then see what can be done. If you want some more detailed instructions on how to use the webform, please see the documentation at https://yoe.github.io/sreview In case of any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at: mailinglist: video(a)fosdem.org IRC: irc.freenode.net, channel #fosdem-video (web interface: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fosdem-video ) Thanks for your help! the FOSDEM video team -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

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Fwd: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Designing a Libre Embedded / Mobile RISCV64 SoC'
by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 04 Feb '18

04 Feb '18

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <noreply(a)fosdem.org> Date: Sunday, February 4, 2018 Subject: Your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled 'Designing a Libre Embedded / Mobile RISCV64 SoC' To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Cc: responsible for track Lightning Talks <lightningtalks(a)fosdem.org> Hello! The video of your FOSDEM 2018 talk titled Designing a Libre Embedded / Mobile RISCV64 SoC is now available for review at: https://review.video.fosdem.org/review/c97ffff2d995cc901c7e92a1ab14b5 5b34cda9132200ceb2d3ff35e8a4b2ad88 Please help us review your talk, so that we can release it sooner. This will only take a few minutes of your time; if you don't do it, we will have to, but then it may take several weeks or even months before your talk recording will be released. Things to look out for: - Please indicate the start and end of your talk. Include our actual talk, questions and applause. Optionally include the introduction. - The review screen shows three videos. The video marked "main" is what the system currently thinks is your talk. The two other ones provide context. They should help you find the start and end points and will not be part of the released video. - Please verify that the audio track is usable. If it isn't, try the "alternate" audio channel. - In case of problems that you cannot fix using the interface, mark the talk as "broken" and enter a note. We will then see what can be done. If you want some more detailed instructions on how to use the webform, please see the documentation at https://yoe.github.io/sreview In case of any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at: mailinglist: video(a)fosdem.org IRC: irc.freenode.net, channel #fosdem-video (web interface: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fosdem-video ) Thanks for your help! the FOSDEM video team -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68

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Re: [Arm-netbook] Arm Netbook: I just was reading some old logs,
by Jean Flamelle 04 Feb '18

04 Feb '18

http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2017-February/012942.html http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2013-June/thread.html#7620 These are the relevant threads and emails that I found. Ultimately there are just unidentified broken drivers and it would just take an unpredictable amount of effort to even determine which ones. All necessary drivers and firmware are present, only some function and/or variable names were likely changed somewhere down the line which weren't properly updated for all drivers. I'm sure this type of thing is fairly common. Disclaimer: not a programmer; likely very incorrect. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 05:45:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] systemd and kernel: 3.4, mainline To: Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Stefan Monnier <monnier(a)iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: >> And now I hear that A20 card will be shipped with kernel 3.4. Sure, it's >> not lower than 3.2 but how long will glibc support 3.4? What about other >> packages? > > Actually, mainline support for A20 isn't that bad, depending on your > specific use case. > Check http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort. It's fairly good > for headless servers, less so for tablets and desktops. And there is > (slow) progress, so its future isn't too bleak. yeahhh, it's the lack of desktop support that's the main concern. i'd like to be able to say that it will be possible to fund the mainlining support but it isn't, right now. also, as i mentioned earlier, the A20's running out of time. i'm going to have to ship with only an older toshipba 1MB or even just a 128kb NAND flash because it's getting harder and harder to find so-called "legacy" NAND flash ICs in TSSOP packaging that the A20's brain-dead boot ROM recognises. so now you may gain some understanding why the RK3288 board is so important. (a) it's got full mainline support (b) it's just as libre as the A20 Card (c) it has mass-volume support (d) it's had a chromebook and more made around it (e) it's been around long enough to have all the problems ironed out (f) the technical reference manuals are now online (g) it's possible to get Reference Designs for $USD 25. that DOES NOT mean that the A20 board is not important: it is critical at this early phase. l. _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook(a)lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netbook(a)files.phcomp.co.uk

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Arm Netbook: I just was reading some old logs,
by zap 03 Feb '18

03 Feb '18

and I wondered, whenever the eoma68 standard libre laptop is released, I recall you saying the 4.9 kernel doesn't give 100% functionality, I just wondered two things: One, how much % of functionality would work, and how much wouldn't work Two, could it be loaded temporarily until I add a new kernel (if I went down the devuan route especially) I only ask for this info because of curiosity. That's all. I mean, would I notice anything happen that's major or would it be something minor to me such as hdmi... just curious.

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